The president of the California Podiatric Medical Association (CPMA) writes a letter to PM News clarifying licensure vs. degree. The podiatry trade schools just have to add M.D. or D.O. to the D.P.M. degree and all is well.
Join the APMA in this venture.
Here’s a message El Presidente. You can add M.D., Ph.D, or whatever you wish. A phony degree is a phony degree. You may fool the public. You won’t fool the medical community and legislators charged with protecting your health. You are delusional !
Look at the M.D. degree so prominently wielded by say Jeffrey Ross and David Armstrong. They are still only a podiatrist. The M.D. they have does not allow them to practice medicine.
They are still podiatrists and not physicians you twit.
Look at Brad Bakotic. He is a practicing physician because he actually trained as a physician. He has a real degree in medicine.
Maybe you Californians are smoking too much pot and imbibing too much NAPA valley grape.
Declare an M.D. or D.O. degree without actually going to medical school ? Only the APMA could rationalize this thinking.
Can you imagine Ira Krause or Hal Ornstein or Lawrence Santi or Dennis Frisch with a stethoscope giving cardiac clearance for surgery ?
Can you imagine guys who cannot even pass podiatry boards regulating perioperative cancer drugs, diabetic medications, or cardiac meds ?
If so, I’d suggest you open your peepers and look at the people paying and attending meetings to hear DeHeer, DeCaro, Moore, Christina, and the rest.
You want these people to have an M.D. degree ?
As they say in tuna land, sorry Charlie.
It’s not a course in psychiatry, or gynecology. It’s hours and days and weeks in critical care, in obstetrics, in the emergency room, oncology, general surgery, pediatrics, neurology, gastroenterology.
Not hanging out, not following around, not a couple of lectures. It’s doing. It’s life and death decision making. Not just standing there watching real doctors treat real diseases.
It’s trial by fire, not by fiat. No poseurs allowed. That is the difference between a real M.D. degree and a pretend M.D. degree.
That is what all physicians have in common. They have been there. You have not.
The APMA can declare whatever they wish. States can legislate whatever they wish. You are and will remain a podiatric doctor. Period. End of story
Well TRAUM, if we are to follow the logic of lifers from other posts then you too must have been a FAILURE who can’t do much more than blame the world’s greatest profession. That seems to be the propaganda of the day. I guess you are getting too close to the bone (truth). Lifers don’t like their mask lifted. Remember, the ER’s would fold and limbs would be left in the parking lot if it weren’t for us wtf’s. Yes, the lifers will attack CRITICS of podiatry but podiatry ITSELF is a sacred scroll (whoops was I just racist?) I… Read more »
Together, we represent the most extraordinary nation profession in all of history. We must keep podiatry first in our hearts. We must keep freedom alive in our souls. And we must always keep faith in podiatry’s destiny – that one profession, under God, must be the hope and the promise and the glory among all the professions of the foot and sometimes ankle world. Notice the in these passages and in the speech the recurring themes of manifest destiny, faith, podiatrick exceptionalism, freedom, God, and greatness – often those exact words, and recited like a sermon to be taken on… Read more »
Traum, you’re probably right, but to just give in is to make the road too easy for the BAD MEN in podiatry. Why get bullied around? Like they say, it’s better TO DIE ON YOUR FEET THAN TO LIVE ON YOUR KNEES. I, for one, am a Don Quixote attacking wind mills. I won’t give them the satisfaction of NON RESISTANCE. If I’m going down I’m taking a few with me. Block and his buddies love obsequiousness but they won’t get it from good men who have RIGHT ON THEIR SIDE. Even though it may be uphill and perhaps a… Read more »
Robert—respect your opinions. And you are spot on re: podupetry. For moral and ethical grounds do NOT stop contradicting their dp wtf bs. It’s 99.7% lies, embellishments, fraud, half-truths, exagerrations, bullshit, shysters, conartists. etc….With no real health care, except insurance pubically traded for profit corporations and their “discount” programs, patients are leaving their health “care” to the ER. Dig it.
What if podiatry cannot and/or will not get rid of these ‘bad’ dp wtf ‘men’? What if it cannot change? What if there is no (farcical) proleteriat revolution/uprising? What if this IS dp wtfery, and the minions all enjoy bending over and pulling down their pants? Then what? Even if 5% dislike what’s happening and really want “change”–so what? You have @95% who are either the barrister shlock types or those that thk someday somedaze my ship will come in with riches and they support the status quo b/c they’re Willy Lomans–delusional morons who believe in the greatest story ever… Read more »
Phililp Dick had that great reality quote that Caddy Pod would often times state. Akin to dp wtfs worshipping dp wtfs made us think of Bellah’s 1967 article; the idea of the us civil religion actually preceded him in a bk of the 1950s, Will Herberg’s “Protestant, Catholic, Jew.” It seems obvious that above all, Americans worship America itself, have made a religion out of it. This is why criticism of the US is met w/a fierce reaction (similar to the lust for shoes/ podiatry, etc…, and the accusation that one is anti-American. It’s a religious reaction; reason flies out… Read more »
Scrapbooks of shoe pictures…hmmm. Takes me back a lifetime, interviewing at PCPM. On the $.50 tour… up to the 6th floor, the top if you will. On one side, Dr. Master Bates office. On the other side the famous shoe museum that was on Action News. Let’s see- a stinky sneaker from Dr. J on a pedestal under glass. The Chinese torture shoe binding collection. The..wait!! WTF?! Think about it, a shoe museum in a podiatry school??! Why didn’t my warning bells go off??? Do dental schools have teeth museums? Do ob/gyns have lingerie museums? Oh, that’s right, I was… Read more »
b/c it was another american hu$tle to get money from MD /DO/DC/DMD rejects. Ask yourself–does the dp wtf program exist in other countries? The EU? Australasia? NZ? Russia? Where? Oh, the states. hustlers, hucksters, conartists.
Master Bates had a bottle of wild turkey in his desk. He would get mildly shit faced and walk around that 6th floor. Shoes, shoes, shoes, braces, and shoes.
Maybe shit faced enough to call Mrs. Whitney up from the receptionist’s desk for a “consultation”?
They were pretty shit faced –Master Bates, Flagietta, CONway, and the imbecile anatomy teacher from bullfck OK.
Yes so many fond PCPM memories. I graduated over 30 years ago and still get night sweats just thinking about the place. Imagine, being conned into spending four years “learning” how to cut toenails. BTW, still a little confused about forefoot supinatus and pseudo-equinus. Does anybody know if they are part of Decrapo’s Master course?
Those subjects are only covered in the advanced course. You have to take basic I and II first. By the way, how ’bout that Suzy Synapse?? Kidowaa!!
I know you’re sick of my monopoly on comments but things occur to me in every day life that reinforces the silliness of podiatry and the in tenuous position of lifers and podiatric zealots. I can’t keep my anger over the LIES “WE WERE TOLD” internalized. Though Barry Block still desperately prints sock drives, NON FDA APPROVED remedies, and an infinite number of articles on stupid fasciitis and pronation. Well, I went through a pre surgical clearance for an upcoming procedure. As I, the big DOCTOR OF PODIATRIC TECHNICIANSHIP sat unceremoniously in a gown, a 25 year old (actually quite… Read more »
So very well written, Robert! I like the last part: “…who looks more like a PODIATRIST and who looks more like a DOCTOR?…
Robert has a brain, a critically thinking one. Thank you for the great statements regarding podiatry fraud. Or, the fraud, called us podiatry.
And BTW, Barry Block, Thomas Graziano, DPM, MD from Clifton, NJ who loves to write into your PM Stupid News and show that MD after his name is also a fake. No internship in medicine. No residency in anything, including family practice, and no license to practice medicine in the state of NJ. It’s called taking classes at St. George’s Medical School in Grenada over the weekends. Graziano is as much of an MD as David Armstong and Jeffrey Ross. Barry you are a first class fool. And I am certain that Robert and many others will 2nd my opinion… Read more »
just like the bald dork with glasses who got an “academic” md from the UK from his diabetic foot mafia buddies. All a scam. Whadda expect, usa-ers.
ALSO,… don’t we have enough podiatrists with FAKE M.D.’s that don’t allow them to be licensed? If you had a brain and a licensable M.D. would you stay in the wtf profession or move on? Once again it is PODIATRISTS (Politicians and orthotic loving lifers) who are PODIATRY’S BIGGEST IMPEDIMENT. THEY DO NOT WANT CHANGE. As long as we leave the Barry Block’s, Shavelson, Oreinstein types around the harder it will be to make podiatry mainstream medical. I know it’s repetitious but podiatrists are a little thick.. You must rid the profession of these money loving self centered, minimally academic… Read more »
The real qsn is how many dp wtfs have EARNED an MD or equivalent, did a real residency, fellowship, and are actively licensed to PRACTICE medicine. 99.99999% of dp wtfs with bullshit paper “mds” are hu$tler american ass hats. IF one did earn a real MD, they are NOT doing that pod foot thing. Period. The. End. Enjoy the decline!
Yeah, do you want a arch support salesman like Shavelson who says ‘those of us who drool when a patient (customer) brings in a bag of custom orthotics. Ka Ching is his thought process. He sells supports for $900/per and says dpwtf’s should keep the customer (pt.?) “in the loop”. Do you see any medicine here or just a money loving business man? Foot techs in NJ are being denied Vascular Study payments and their told TO JOIN THE NJPMSA so they can have its INSURANCE COMMITTEE represent them. How about this? Become a recognized Vascular Specialist and the insurance… Read more »
Shavelson’s world revolves around money.
That was the us empire. Hustlers, hucksters, and shysters galore. What else that a mish mash of hyper aggressive individuals all tryin to get a buck. usa, usa!
Shatveloson was american.